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one from the right on president obama and one from the left on paul ryan. will either have an impact? al sharp top is going to join me. plus, joe biden a sex symbol? i'm going to talk to politico's -- they're dancing on the set. we're going to talk about this with jonathan allen, who says vice president biden is bringing sexy back to the medicare crowd and what do you think? we want to hear from you. do you think one of the candidates will deliver a knockout punch? you can tweet me and we'll get some of your responses. i can't believe you're missing chris and joy dancing. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> on the day of the presidential debate, two tapes from the past are creating talking points on both sides of the aisle. from the right, a 2007 tape that news organizations including nbc covered during the 2008 campaign of barack obama
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i asked anna if paul ryan's remarks are part of the deliberate strategy. >> i don't know if it's a smart strategy, but i know it's a realistic strategy. obviously they are down in the polls and they have to do retweaking. i think he is being humble and realistic, and he's admitting there have been mistakes made, and so i think it's a good thing. they do need to eat a little humble pie and admit that things are not all rosy. >> peggy said it was crucial. do you see the debate is crucial? >> the first debate is the only debate that matters at this point. if romney cannot hit obama with what he has to say in the first -- these have not been gaffes by mitt romney. this is mitt romney. this is not the first time he talked about not caring about people less fortunate than him. he said he was not concerned about the very poor. this is not like a misstep. it's a consistent theme with him and it's up to the voters to see if they agree with him. it's not gaffes, it's him. >> how does mitt romney have to appear. does he have to be aggressive? what is the right tone? when we saw him before when he w
i asked anna if paul ryan's remarks are part of the deliberate strategy. >> i don't know if it's a smart strategy, but i know it's a realistic strategy. obviously they are down in the polls and they have to do retweaking. i think he is being humble and realistic, and he's admitting there have been mistakes made, and so i think it's a good thing. they do need to eat a little humble pie and admit that things are not all rosy. >> peggy said it was crucial. do you see the debate is...
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listen, romney/ryan, romney/ryan. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> sweet jesus, indeed. >> romney/ryan, there we go, that's great. >> stop it. this is hard. you want to try it? did i -- was i a little strong? >> romney/ryan. >> not sure precisely what i said but i stand by what i said, whatever it was. ♪ cleveland rocks jumping jean james dean ♪ ♪ cleveland rocks >> we begin with the president and mitt romney in a fever-pitch to gain the american heartland with candidates holding dueling events in ohio this afternoon, speaking at exactly the same time, to somewhat different kroundz. the buckeye battle going down even as devastating new polls show serious troubles for the romney camp. hours ago the president cracked 50% in gallup's dailily tracking poll, leading romney by six points nationwide. poll this is week have shown mitt romney trailing in just about every battleground state in this campaign. but nowhere is he in deeper trouble than in the depths of ohio. yes, in case you were wri
listen, romney/ryan, romney/ryan. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> sweet jesus, indeed. >> romney/ryan, there we go, that's great. >> stop it. this is hard. you want to try it? did i -- was i a little strong? >> romney/ryan. >> not sure precisely what i said but i stand by what i said, whatever it was. ♪ cleveland rocks jumping jean james dean ♪ ♪ cleveland rocks >> we begin with the president and mitt romney in a fever-pitch to gain the american heartland...
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barack obama and mitt romney and paul ryan have all seen fit to weigh in on this one football game from monday, on the referees issue. all three men saying that the green bay packers deserve to win that game. the packers got robbed. so even as the packers' agony crossed over into national politics this week, i still have to say that it remains true that the single west political green bay packers moment in history, the best moment of all time in the overlap that exists between the green bay packers and politics is still this moment. >> there are 30 teams, but only one packer organization, and that is the greatest football organization ever in america's history. there are only 187 days before training camp. and 360 days before we go back to miami! whereas the packers are america's real team, and we'll always be winners in the hearts and minds of the people of wisconsin, therefore i, tommy thompson, governor of the great state of wisconsin, do hereby proclaim january 27th, 1998, all over wisconsin, green bay packer day in honor of all of you, the fans! congratulations. thank you. >> tommy
barack obama and mitt romney and paul ryan have all seen fit to weigh in on this one football game from monday, on the referees issue. all three men saying that the green bay packers deserve to win that game. the packers got robbed. so even as the packers' agony crossed over into national politics this week, i still have to say that it remains true that the single west political green bay packers moment in history, the best moment of all time in the overlap that exists between the green bay...
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there's new pe from paul ryan that has surfaced. here's ryan talking about peopl assistance. here it is. >> before too ng, would become society we were never tended to be. we could become a society whe americans are takers and not makers, % of amerins want the american dream.theyelieve i idea. only 30% wt the lfare ste. >> doesn't had this show the american people what rney and ryan thinkbout struggling americans? >> absolutel my favorite ing is mitt romneye h i hope that mitt romney e gets a chance to elegantly state what he said outh47% of the erican peot caring enough to takeesponsibily r their own situations i life.d i think, you kw,hat that what tsuspecteabout or romney and paul ryan and th is they don't really care aut the middle class in this country. they a not really concned about and they certainly don un wharstandit's like to work hard and try to g ahe in the country. to play by the rules, but have a different set of rules for pele like s that's whathat tape did. it crystallized fopele that thiss not a grp that believes in middle economic recovery. it's all about t
there's new pe from paul ryan that has surfaced. here's ryan talking about peopl assistance. here it is. >> before too ng, would become society we were never tended to be. we could become a society whe americans are takers and not makers, % of amerins want the american dream.theyelieve i idea. only 30% wt the lfare ste. >> doesn't had this show the american people what rney and ryan thinkbout struggling americans? >> absolutel my favorite ing is mitt romneye h i hope that mitt...
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ryan said he was essentially fed that tape along with a lot of other clips of paul ryan over the weekend that he essentially just got around to it now and posted it today. it does not seem to have been timed quite so acutely for debate eve in the way that the drudgery report was. at the same time, substantively the ryan tape seems to reenforce this 47% tape ha romney has had trouble with. do you see it as reenforcing that problem? >> i think politically it may reenforce the problem. the 47% comments were a huge deal. and they have been criticized by a lot of republicans. the points that paul ryan is making are different. politically they merge together. but it is a meritorious debate to have when you look at the level of dependency in the country. do we want to live in a country where people are receiving a net transfer with tax dollars? do we want to live in a country where a minority of people are the tax providers? do you want everybody to be a stake holder? do you want everybody to have skin in the game? these are arguments worthy of a presidential campaign. what paul ryan is talking
ryan said he was essentially fed that tape along with a lot of other clips of paul ryan over the weekend that he essentially just got around to it now and posted it today. it does not seem to have been timed quite so acutely for debate eve in the way that the drudgery report was. at the same time, substantively the ryan tape seems to reenforce this 47% tape ha romney has had trouble with. do you see it as reenforcing that problem? >> i think politically it may reenforce the problem. the...
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paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicare part d prescription drug benefit which has cost money that was not paid for. paul ryan voted for it. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> coming up. team romney is praising president obama now. they are, we will show you why they are doing it and crazy todd aiken. mitt romney was in favor of the vietnam war and the draft that sent americans to their death but he was not in favor observing in vietnam himself. he was taught a lesson said about the morality of his conduct during the vietnam period by a veteran of that war who taught him a lesson about the people romney thinks of as the takers he thinks are dependant on government. that is coming up. [ horse neighs ] look! she wears the scarlet markings! [ man ] out! your kind is not welcome here! nor your odd predilections! miracle whip is tangy and sweet, not odd. [ man ] it's evil! if you'd try it, you'd know. she speaketh the truth! [ crowd gasps ] [ woman ] reverend? ♪ can i have some? ♪ >>> why is t
paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicare part d prescription drug benefit which has cost money that was not paid for. paul ryan voted for it. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> coming up. team romney is praising president obama now. they are, we will show you why they are doing it and crazy todd aiken. mitt romney was in favor of the vietnam war and the draft that sent americans to their death but he was not in favor observing in vietnam himself. he was...
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web video this morning, you played paul ryan's comments. you know, i don't -- if president obama and his campaign team had a choice, i think they would rather joe biden not have used that phrase in relation to the last four years. that said, i think the life cycle of a gaffe now, andrea is so small it kind of rises up and becomes a huge thing for 15 minutes or one day, and then it disappears. my guess is, at 9:01 p.m. tonight when the debate starts, this will not be as big a deal and there will be new things to talk about, new issues to digest, again, not a great moment for joe biden and clearly one the white house would have rather he not have said. i just don't know that, you know, in two weeks time we're talking about it. >> all right. we'll see what -- whether there's a new gaffe or two or three to replace that one tonight. thank you very much. see you later. joining me in denver, stephanie cutter, deputy campaign manager for the president's re-election effort. where were you when you heard joe biden yesterday? >> i don't remember. beca
web video this morning, you played paul ryan's comments. you know, i don't -- if president obama and his campaign team had a choice, i think they would rather joe biden not have used that phrase in relation to the last four years. that said, i think the life cycle of a gaffe now, andrea is so small it kind of rises up and becomes a huge thing for 15 minutes or one day, and then it disappears. my guess is, at 9:01 p.m. tonight when the debate starts, this will not be as big a deal and there will...
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the romney campaign was furious but ryan reportedly said let the ryan be ryan and let the stench be the stench. >> he didn't really say that, did he? >> the politico, they have people in the field. >> first oall, i will have you ow tre'sothi thafi up a crowd like a good powerpoint presentation. so kudos to paul ryan. it's kind of funny that mitt romney wouldn't embrace the powerpoint more. since in massachusetts he was t whbotothoint guy and bught medicare solvent under me which i guess made it so. paul ryan realized this was not a go move for his career. he was theeriousuyl th pe whoo fa eqlewa tok him as someone who is putting forth smart solutions. now we see the emperor had no clothes. >> and joy, the commentators who are criticizing mitt romney for not being specific on part of his tax pl, on the deduction sidef his tax plan. this is exactly what paul ryan is guilty of. paulyan knows that hang out with mitt romney has exposed him w,y'otinis at paul ryan, because romney is the big name at thhead of the ticket. but ryan knows this is hurting his game in a big way. >> yeah, i mean abs
the romney campaign was furious but ryan reportedly said let the ryan be ryan and let the stench be the stench. >> he didn't really say that, did he? >> the politico, they have people in the field. >> first oall, i will have you ow tre'sothi thafi up a crowd like a good powerpoint presentation. so kudos to paul ryan. it's kind of funny that mitt romney wouldn't embrace the powerpoint more. since in massachusetts he was t whbotothoint guy and bught medicare solvent under me...
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let's take a listen to paul ryan this morning on fox. >> yes, we've had some missteps, but at the end of the day the choice is really clear. we're giving people a really clear choice. we have these pro growth solutions for opportunity and upward mobility in the dynamic economy. you have the president promising four more years of stagnation and dependency. >> paul ryan acknowledges what he calls missteps and admitting mistakes, missteps. is that a deliberate strategy? >> i don't know if it's a smart strategy. but i know it's a realistic strategy. obviously they're down in the polls. i think he's being humble. i think he's being realistic. he's admitting there's been mistakes maitt romney said he didn't make the best articulation when speaking of the 47%. they do need to eat a little humble pie and admit things are not all rosie. we can't deny what the polls are showing. we may be able to argue with the polls a little bit, but things need to pick up. i think paul ryan admitting that this morning is a good thing and refreshing from a politician. >> effectively what he's doing is he's tel
let's take a listen to paul ryan this morning on fox. >> yes, we've had some missteps, but at the end of the day the choice is really clear. we're giving people a really clear choice. we have these pro growth solutions for opportunity and upward mobility in the dynamic economy. you have the president promising four more years of stagnation and dependency. >> paul ryan acknowledges what he calls missteps and admitting mistakes, missteps. is that a deliberate strategy? >> i...
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romney with 47% and ryan with 30%. we're 100%. >> can you remember a time where a political party has carved out a huge part of the country saying we don't like you, we don't respect you, we want to get rid of you with the way you live. >> that's the impression they're leaving. president eisenhower didn't do that, president nixon didn't do that, president reagan made us feel like we were all in it together. >> i've never seen a politician say, i'll take the other part of the vote. i'm not interested in your half, or in this case, 70% he's giving away. >> that's right. i have never heard such language. i think it will allow obama to extend the 47% argument to not only ryan but to the entire republican party. he can say, this is a party that slices and dices the american public. in some ways i think this argument about 30% of the people being lazy, 47% of the people being lazy, goes against the idea of american exceptionalism. how can america be that exceptional if 50% of the country is lazy? we know that's not true. ame
romney with 47% and ryan with 30%. we're 100%. >> can you remember a time where a political party has carved out a huge part of the country saying we don't like you, we don't respect you, we want to get rid of you with the way you live. >> that's the impression they're leaving. president eisenhower didn't do that, president nixon didn't do that, president reagan made us feel like we were all in it together. >> i've never seen a politician say, i'll take the other part of the...
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romney running with paul ryan, he was on the sunday talk shows today. we haven't heard much out of vice president biden lately. we know you've been traveling with him. when he's on the record he says a lot of interesting things. i guess he says a lot of things when he's off the record with you guys. >> a lot of things we won't talk about right now. as you just said, i have been traveling extensively with the vice president, but publicly he's out with these new attack lines against his republican opponent basically saying one of the most memorable of late is the romney plan will basically increase the tacks on social security benefits for seniors. the romney campaign obviously saying that's flat out false. they're pointing reporters to this 1993 vote that biden, then senator biden, made which basically increased the taxes on the benefits of social security for seniors. so that's a huge issue because obviously a lot of this plays to seniors in florida, florida, florida, florida, a battleground state there, which is why you hear the romney campaign pushing
romney running with paul ryan, he was on the sunday talk shows today. we haven't heard much out of vice president biden lately. we know you've been traveling with him. when he's on the record he says a lot of interesting things. i guess he says a lot of things when he's off the record with you guys. >> a lot of things we won't talk about right now. as you just said, i have been traveling extensively with the vice president, but publicly he's out with these new attack lines against his...
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. >> romney and his running mate paul ryan propose to cap malpractice insurance, cut medicate by $810 million over the next ten years, give states more control over your head indicate funds, overall medicare, the overall? people now under than 55, when they reach retirement, they can have a voucher to purchase private insurance. >> this is to guarantee that seniors can always afford medicare coverage no exceptio. s >> romney doesn't want to take out all of the law's provisions. >> we have to make sure that people who have prekpigsing conditions are able to get insured and folks that get sick don't get dropped by their insurance company. >> douglas iken who is the president of the insurance -- >> both sides agree that the mountainous medicare needs to be capped, they just don't agree how to get there. what romney and ryan say they're going to give the money to seniors so they can shop and if they don't like the choice, they can go to another choice and that will meet the cap. >> jonathan supports the law and writes about health care for the me republi lirepublic. >> bakbaum we're not g
. >> romney and his running mate paul ryan propose to cap malpractice insurance, cut medicate by $810 million over the next ten years, give states more control over your head indicate funds, overall medicare, the overall? people now under than 55, when they reach retirement, they can have a voucher to purchase private insurance. >> this is to guarantee that seniors can always afford medicare coverage no exceptio. s >> romney doesn't want to take out all of the law's...
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ryan of course completely missed that opportunity. and i think really solidified the romney/ryan view of the 47%. let's listen to that question and answer. >> we have 47% of the people of the united states paying no taxes. federal income tax. is there any way that this 47% can pay a nominal fee or something so they feel that they have small ownership in the government and maybe they won't take all the handouts so readily. >> i've got an idea. let's help them get jobs so they can get a good paycheck so then they're good taxpayers. this is the point that mitt and i have been trying to make. and sometimes the point doesn't get made the right way. we don't want a stagnant economy that fosters dependency. >> sometimes the point doesn't get made the right way. jonathan, he sure didn't make it the right way. he says about the 47%, let's help them get jobs. so he thinks the 85-year-old widow who does not pay federal income tax needs to get a job. this was a chance for him to reach out, identify that 47%, and show that he knows what they are s
ryan of course completely missed that opportunity. and i think really solidified the romney/ryan view of the 47%. let's listen to that question and answer. >> we have 47% of the people of the united states paying no taxes. federal income tax. is there any way that this 47% can pay a nominal fee or something so they feel that they have small ownership in the government and maybe they won't take all the handouts so readily. >> i've got an idea. let's help them get jobs so they can get...
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this is what paul ryan said on fox yesterday. listen to this. >> president obama's a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> what i love about this particular stage of proceedings, for the first debate, is the way you're both prepared to tell such ghastly lies about each other. paul ryan finally saying all the things about what a great speaker president obama is, how hopeless mitt romney is. the pair of you are playing the same game, lower expectations so far, they just have to breathe to be victorious. >> i think that there's no question that the expectation game is real. everyone plays it. having been involved in a number of presidential debates in the past, there's a certain give and take running up to it. i wouldn't be surprised tomorrow or wednesday, somebody makes a crazy charge or someone in a campaign will do something to try to refocus the run-up to t
this is what paul ryan said on fox yesterday. listen to this. >> president obama's a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> what i love about this particular stage of proceedings, for the first debate, is the way you're both prepared to tell such ghastly lies about each other. paul ryan finally saying all the...
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and let ryan be ryan. we say bring it on. let's look at the real paul ryan right here on "hardball." you're watching it. the place for politics. >>> i'm milissa. >>> welcome back to "hardball." conservatives swoon for congressman paul ryan when he was chosen for the republican ticket, but he's since played the classic role of second fiddle. moderating his positions on both fiscal and cultural issues to conform to romney's views. well, now that romney/ryan campaign is coming off a bit of a couple rough weeks there. some conservatives have just got the answer. simply let ryan be ryan. that was the advice they dished to "the new york times" today. but is that really the smart move, really? joan walsh is editor-at-large of salon and author of "what's the matter with white people." and eugene robinson is a pulitzer prize win be columnist from "the washington post." i think there are problems marrying paul ryan politically like his positions. isn't that the reason why romney kissed him, said good-bye, i like you
and let ryan be ryan. we say bring it on. let's look at the real paul ryan right here on "hardball." you're watching it. the place for politics. >>> i'm milissa. >>> welcome back to "hardball." conservatives swoon for congressman paul ryan when he was chosen for the republican ticket, but he's since played the classic role of second fiddle. moderating his positions on both fiscal and cultural issues to conform to romney's views. well, now that romney/ryan...
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. >> paul ryan was asked about the tax cuts for the millionaires proposed by romney and ryan's budget plans. he was a guest on fox news sunday with chris wallace and the vice presidential candidate made some missteps of his own. >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> i'm just talking about -- the cut in tax rates. >> it's lower, all americans tax rates. it's revenue neutral. >> it's not unless you take away the deductions. we're going to get to that. the first half. lowering the tax rates. does that cost $5 trillion? >> no. >> the master of the power point was having a hard time making a point. let's break down what paul ryan is actually saying here. romney and ryan will give $5 trillion in tax breaks to the wealthiest americans. subtract an unspecified amount of money of unnamed deductions. somehow you're going to get a revenue neutral tax plan. it's a plan so bogus not even a fox news host can understand it. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through the math. >> paul ryan, paul ryan, if you want to be a heartbeat
. >> paul ryan was asked about the tax cuts for the millionaires proposed by romney and ryan's budget plans. he was a guest on fox news sunday with chris wallace and the vice presidential candidate made some missteps of his own. >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> i'm just talking about -- the cut in tax rates. >> it's lower, all americans tax rates. it's revenue neutral. >> it's not unless you take away the deductions. we're going to get...
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second, wait a second, romney-ryan, romney-ryan. >> cenk: oh, that's painful. and first of all the denies of reality are fantastic. second of all racism. wow, i didn't see that coming. we'll show you what we're talking about. and later in the program, it is okay to deface property if it is about hate speech. >> what are you doing? >> i do. >> you are under arrest. >> for what? >> joy: and our bacon is in jeopardy. i'm going to tell you about that on the show too. i can't have it! go time! [♪ theme music ♪] >> cenk: now you know i love predictions on this show. i went pretty far 12 days ago. here is what i said. having said that it is no longer even, it's nowhere near even. right now if nothing changes it is not going to be close. it's going to be a landslide, and at this point, i'll even go further. he doesn't need a game changer anymore, . he needs a miracle. and now i'm about to go further. a minor miracle will no longer do it. so barring a major miracle, i'm calling the election right now. it's already over. i know a lot of you are thinking don't jinx it
second, wait a second, romney-ryan, romney-ryan. >> cenk: oh, that's painful. and first of all the denies of reality are fantastic. second of all racism. wow, i didn't see that coming. we'll show you what we're talking about. and later in the program, it is okay to deface property if it is about hate speech. >> what are you doing? >> i do. >> you are under arrest. >> for what? >> joy: and our bacon is in jeopardy. i'm going to tell you about that on the show...
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reportedly using a toxic nickname for his running mate, let ryan be ryan and let the stench be the stench. suddenly you could smell that story in lots of places. >> yes. the stench. that is what paul ryan is actually calling mitt romney according to politico. >> "the new york times" columnist blogged this is bad behavior, you're supposed to wait until it is over before you do this kind of thing. says it demonstrates the toxic press is in ryan's head, except that roger, well, made that up. it was a bit of satire, subtle enough that politico had to add an editor's note later saying some readers were confused that this was satire, which means it was too subtle and probably a bad idea. >>> jim bell, top producer at the "today" show says matt lauer had nothing to do with the controversial decision to dump co-host ann curry. he says the move to replace her with savannah guthrie wasn't matt's call, it was bell's decision. he discussed losing ratings lead to good morning america after a 16 year run and called the "today" show a more serious program and said abc's news program is doing something e
reportedly using a toxic nickname for his running mate, let ryan be ryan and let the stench be the stench. suddenly you could smell that story in lots of places. >> yes. the stench. that is what paul ryan is actually calling mitt romney according to politico. >> "the new york times" columnist blogged this is bad behavior, you're supposed to wait until it is over before you do this kind of thing. says it demonstrates the toxic press is in ryan's head, except that roger,...
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paul ryan, isn't that something. wait a second. romney/ryan. romney/ryan. romney/ryan, there we go. that's great. thank you. >> the already weird interpersonal dynamics on the republican ticket reached a possible dezooe knit of awkwardness yesterday as governor romney campaigned with his running mate. as with all complex relationships it wasn't always like this. square jauds and earn had nest as a 1950's sitcom star he sounded like a lost member of the romney tribe. with ryan drawing crowds the alpha dog appears to be getting tired of reminding people who is the campaign pate tree yashg. >> i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president, not him. >> ryan doesn't always seem to get the message. in days he's been reportedly acting like a rebellious teenager going back to his old ways and giving power point presentations at campaign rallies. >> we can't keep spending money we don't have. today our federal government for every dollar it spends it borrows 36 cents on that dollar. by the time my three kids are around my age, at the top there, our debt is going to
paul ryan, isn't that something. wait a second. romney/ryan. romney/ryan. romney/ryan, there we go. that's great. thank you. >> the already weird interpersonal dynamics on the republican ticket reached a possible dezooe knit of awkwardness yesterday as governor romney campaigned with his running mate. as with all complex relationships it wasn't always like this. square jauds and earn had nest as a 1950's sitcom star he sounded like a lost member of the romney tribe. with ryan drawing...
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. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers not makers. 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue that we're already passed that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/30 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe in the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> which video is more sensat n sensational? more of a game-changing contest modifier. joining us from the site of tonight's debate in denver is the man who knows from game change, emmy darling, "time" magazine and msnbc senior political analyst whose publication is out with an issue today, who's telling the truth, the fact wars. mark halperin, i've been trying to find
. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers not makers. 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue that we're already...
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ryan. joining us from washington, julian epstein, who is a democratic strategist, and ken vogel, chief investigative reporter for polpolitico. paul ryan has conceded that mitt romney's 47% comments were inarticulate. they seem to acknowledge that the 47%, largely the elderly, working poor, veterans, but now ryan sounds as if he agrees with mitt. which is it? >> that's right. you could imagine john mccain in 2008 saying, wait a second, that 47% is made up of veterans who have paid their debt to society with blood literally. it's made up of mostly working people, most of that 47% are working americans, working middle class, working poor. >> hard working who earn less than $30,000 a year. >> or even $40,000 or $50,000 and many of those -- many of that 47% is made up of seniors. you know, this network is going to have a new poll later today that's going to show the race tightening and the national numbers but not in the battleground states i think. one of the big reasons for that, one of the bi
ryan. joining us from washington, julian epstein, who is a democratic strategist, and ken vogel, chief investigative reporter for polpolitico. paul ryan has conceded that mitt romney's 47% comments were inarticulate. they seem to acknowledge that the 47%, largely the elderly, working poor, veterans, but now ryan sounds as if he agrees with mitt. which is it? >> that's right. you could imagine john mccain in 2008 saying, wait a second, that 47% is made up of veterans who have paid their...
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stay with us. >>> paul ryan has become an intellectual leader of the republican party. >> that is the day things really changed. we were on a path. wde even. well, momentum is very much with us. the medicare issue in this campaign, so we have a message, we have the messengers, we have the money, we had the mobilization. we have a very excellent chance to take back the house. the ree itasshey have been in the campaign, in alphabetical order. medicare, medicare, medicare. and when ryan was chosen, the agent for the destruction of medicare was chosen as the vice presidential candite, well, it clarified the debate for many people in the races that we are active in. >> whatever it says about american politics, the fact is that the balance of power in congress and the house of representatives has been shifting pretty wildly in these st few elections. in a08e mocrs swung 52 seats in their direction. they seized both control of the house and a huge majority in the house. then in 2010, the republicans swung seats back in their direction, and they got control in 2010. and now for this year, bel
stay with us. >>> paul ryan has become an intellectual leader of the republican party. >> that is the day things really changed. we were on a path. wde even. well, momentum is very much with us. the medicare issue in this campaign, so we have a message, we have the messengers, we have the money, we had the mobilization. we have a very excellent chance to take back the house. the ree itasshey have been in the campaign, in alphabetical order. medicare, medicare, medicare. and when...
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ryan. >> steve s there anything they can do tonight or mr. romney can do to really push that needle, particularly in the swing states? >> i think there are two things to look at here. the problem for romney is this, he is constrained in very serious ways in a form like this where his party is. president republican party in response to obama's election moved fartherer to the right. there are demands from republicans, if you are mitt romney and you're going to be specific on the issues, there are demands you articulate an extremely conservative -- >> i'm sorry to interrupt you. on alter things romney will do that, he'll swing back to the middle on the economy, swing back to the middle on immigration. you think he won't? >> he can do that in broad strokes. i think he's very good at that. the question is then this, what does barack obama or what does jim lehrer do as the moderator. he will anticipate a broad strokes vision about his tax plan. then the question becomes, how do you pay for it? you're going to cut taxes for everybody. it's going to
ryan. >> steve s there anything they can do tonight or mr. romney can do to really push that needle, particularly in the swing states? >> i think there are two things to look at here. the problem for romney is this, he is constrained in very serious ways in a form like this where his party is. president republican party in response to obama's election moved fartherer to the right. there are demands from republicans, if you are mitt romney and you're going to be specific on the...
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this has been a big 180 for the gop, ryan. santorum is saying that the entire gop needs to get behind akin. roy blount, who initially called for akin to step aside is saying voters will overlook akin's comments and vote for him. the "the huffington post" publication, has an interesting piece this morning where akin is responding to a question about voting against the lilly ledbetter act and saying it's all part of free enterprise and it's about freedom not paying women as much as men. >> that was the argument that was made against the civil rights act too, it's your business, you can do whatever you want with it. but i don't think it's that surprising that some republicans are coming back behind akin here. parties are generally speaking amoral. their job is to get themselves a majority in the senate or the house. whatever they need to do they're going to do to get there. now, it looked for a while like they were going to be able to push him off the ballot. so they all piled on. and they all had this, you know, spas. of more re
this has been a big 180 for the gop, ryan. santorum is saying that the entire gop needs to get behind akin. roy blount, who initially called for akin to step aside is saying voters will overlook akin's comments and vote for him. the "the huffington post" publication, has an interesting piece this morning where akin is responding to a question about voting against the lilly ledbetter act and saying it's all part of free enterprise and it's about freedom not paying women as much as men....
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paul ryan also in ohio this week. >> here's the killer. president obama just the other day, he said on tv that i can't change washington from the inside. why do we send presidents to the white house in the first place? isn't that why we send presidents to washington, to change washington? >> this is parentally the new thing that president obama said it's hard to change washington from the inside. mitt romney is on record saying the exact same thing on the presidential campaign trail, but apparently they want it to be a scandal. which of course is ridiculous. but i highlight that speech for the reason other than the hypocrisy of the dumb change in washington line. and the reason i highlight it is because paul ryan new stump speech is now tentatively branching out into foreign policy. kind of. >> i mean, turn on the tv and it reminds you of 1979 tehran, but they're burning our flags in capitals all around the world. they're storming our embassies. we've lost four of our diplomats and what is the signal that our government is sending the worl
paul ryan also in ohio this week. >> here's the killer. president obama just the other day, he said on tv that i can't change washington from the inside. why do we send presidents to the white house in the first place? isn't that why we send presidents to washington, to change washington? >> this is parentally the new thing that president obama said it's hard to change washington from the inside. mitt romney is on record saying the exact same thing on the presidential campaign...
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don't even go there, paul ryan. that straight to camera shot, you saw both campaigns come out with ads. president obama is a much better speaker. he's more direct and communicates warmth and honesty. from mitt romney it seems hollow. if i were the romney campaign, i would stay with the fix it thing. do everything short of coming out with mops and brooms and talk about the economy. whenever they try to play the genuine american attack, it never works for them. they fall flat and it always rings hollow. >> alex, richard, great to have you with us on "the ed show." >>> coming up, the obama campaign released a new ad hammering mitt romney for outsourcing jobs to a chinese company with sweat shop conditions during his time at bain capital. sherrod brown will be joining me on that and other issues. >>> and billionaires are getting antsy about the possibility of president obama's reelection. and they are starting to whine big time. stay tuned. you're watching "the ed show." >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for wat
don't even go there, paul ryan. that straight to camera shot, you saw both campaigns come out with ads. president obama is a much better speaker. he's more direct and communicates warmth and honesty. from mitt romney it seems hollow. if i were the romney campaign, i would stay with the fix it thing. do everything short of coming out with mops and brooms and talk about the economy. whenever they try to play the genuine american attack, it never works for them. they fall flat and it always rings...
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paul ryan, god bless chris wallace for pressing as much as he could on paul ryan, no we've got all the time in the world, explain, explain. paul ryan didn't want to do it in a format that where chris wallace would have given him all the time in the world to get into the specifics. mitt romney won't have that much time, but if he doesn't go into specifics, all the complaints that we've been hearing from the american people, but also from republicans about the lack of specificity in this campaign, i think will get louder. >> nate, you're a man of numbers. a prognosticator, what is your bet? george will writes romney is behind so on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks. which is a lot of risk in one sentence. do you think romg will go out there? i mean given his behavior thus far? >> historically the defirst debate is the first time a challenger has a chance to stance on stage on a level playing for field for a couple hours with the incumbent president and it's been the challenger's best debate. so just by showing up, you would think that romney's a slight favori
paul ryan, god bless chris wallace for pressing as much as he could on paul ryan, no we've got all the time in the world, explain, explain. paul ryan didn't want to do it in a format that where chris wallace would have given him all the time in the world to get into the specifics. mitt romney won't have that much time, but if he doesn't go into specifics, all the complaints that we've been hearing from the american people, but also from republicans about the lack of specificity in this...